Identify Rabbit Color Pattern?

[Bunman]

My Daisy would i think be described as a SealPoint if she were a cat (sorry no pics) - dark brown feet with darkhead/snout, chest & back, flanks are somewhat lighter. What isthis called in the rabbit world?

Interestingly, here is a rab described as a seal point. However Daisydoes not have the strong contrast, she's shades of brown all over:

http://www.apus.ru/im.xp/049056054124052057056049053056.jpg

 

[Snuggys Mom]

She may be a Sable Point or Siamese Sable. Does she look like this?

http://cimmarononline.com/color%20shaded.htm

 

[Bunman]

Probably the closest would be the Painted Lady,altho Daisy is a "regular" mini. Her smooth glossy coat also suggeststhe "seal" idea.

 

[pamnock]

A photo would really help.

I did look at some photos of seal point cats, and they resemble oursable point rabbits in the US. Shading on the body can varyquite a bit - from a very creamy body, to shadings or smutting on thebody.

The brown shaded rabbits without the obvious points are Siamese Sables as Snuggys Mom pointed out in the photos.

Pam

 

[Snuggys Mom]

Bunman wrote:

Probably the closest would be the Painted Lady, altho Daisyis a "regular" mini.

Ijust used that site because they were good examples of the colors.

There are several different breeds with that coloring.

 

[NZminilops]

Does your rabbit have a red/ruby cast to it'seyes? Are they brown but glow red in the sun? If so I would probablysay you have a sable, or in some countries called a simese sable. Ihave a sable mini lop:

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j10/a31cefiro/DSC06094.jpg
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j10/a31cefiro/DSC06114.jpg
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j10/a31cefiro/DSC06119.jpg

A sealpoint is the dilute version of a sable here in NZ, it's a creamywhite body with darker points, which in the US is a sable point (I'mpretty sure anyway).

 

[pamnock]

Great photos Minilops!

In the US, our terminology varies by breed - some use "sable" while others use "siamese sable".



We refer to the blue gene as "dilute".Oursable point has an non-extension gene "e" recessive tothesiamese sable's full extension "E". Our diluteof the siamese sable is the"smoke pearl" with blue-gray eyes.



Pam

 

[NZminilops]

That's quite interesting Pam - makes me want togo and read up about our colour genetics now! I'm not even sure aboutthe sable/sealpoint thing I said above as I only have it in hear-say.Maybe I'm using the wrong word with dilute. Dilute here makes sootyfawn (black tort) turn into beige, or black turn into blue, chocolateinto lilac...at least that's what i was told but I may be wrong .

I read on a UK site that seal points, or sable points, should have aruby cast to the eyes also. Is that accurate? My first mini lop neverhad a red tint to his eyes at all and he was a seal point. His pointswere somewhat grey in colour though.

 

[pamnock]

minilops wrote:

That's quite interesting Pam - makes me want to go and readup about our colour genetics now! I'm not even sure about thesable/sealpoint thing I said above as I only have it in hear-say. MaybeI'm using the wrong word with dilute. Dilute here makes sooty fawn(black tort) turn into beige, or black turn into blue, chocolate intolilac...at least that's what i was told but I may be wrong .

I read on a UK site that seal points, or sable points, should have aruby cast to the eyes also. Is that accurate? My first mini lop neverhad a red tint to his eyes at all and he was a seal point. His pointswere somewhat grey in colour though.

The ruby tint is far more obvious in heterozygous shaded rabbits that carry the albino gene recessively.

I've seen reference of the sable points being called dilute sables inUK terminology, but our US dilute sable is the smoke pearl (our dilutesable point isgenerally referred to as a "blue point" - whichis a very different color than the pointed blue).We do use"dilute" to refer to any homozygous "d" (blue)variety such as blue tort (your beige), blue, lilac, opal, lynx, etc.

Pam