Bred to two bucks?

[Shaded Night Rabbitry]

I forgot this happened. I thought it was the other doe that got bred to both, but it can't be now.

Momma (Siamese Sable):
aa B- c[sup]chl[/sup]c D- EE

Who I thought was daddy (Sable Point)
aa B- c[sup]chl[/sup]? D- ee

The buck has never had a himi behind him. Ever. The breeder doesn't use them in her lines. And unless it's carried from 6+ generations back, which is stretching it, then he should be a c[sup]chl[/sup]c.

But what I thought were rews when they were born, are now developing color on their ears, nose, and tails. Nothing on their feet yet.

How does coloring develop on Himi ND's? I'll take photos later, but I don't think their coloring will show. Plus their dad, who genetically should have been a black himi, had so light of points that people were calling him a lilac.


And how do you go about picking them out? I have a feeling she was bred by BOTH bucks on the same day... Could the genetically be half to one dad, and half to another? I wish there were an easier way to tell, but theres 4 sables and 2 himis... The sables could come from either. baaaah.

 

[mistyjr]

May I ask why you want to use 2 different bucks?? That would be hard to choose who's the daddy on the pegiree's??

 

[Shaded Night Rabbitry]

I didn't want to. It was just a mistake that happened in mass confusion of the day.

I forgot completely about it, because the doe that was suppose to be bred to the himi was. And I thought I bred this doe to the sable point. But I must have mixed up cages sometime during the day, and the himi must have serviced both does.

I'm not sure. It was a good two months ago, and with so many litters around, and so many more bred does, I'm just not sure what happened.

But I'll assume that both bucks bred her, because I have my sable point marked down as the dad, rather than the himi. IDK.

 

[mistyjr]

I understand that.. Exspieally when you have too many rabbits!

 

[OakRidgeRabbits]

I believe Himi may actually be possible from that cross, if one of the parents carried for it. Recessive genes are generally only carried a generation or two, but can be carried from generations even off the pedigree.

 

[Rattiemattiesrattery]

I know with rats, Colors and markings can come back to bite you after 15 generations.

As far as telling who the dad is, perhaps a dna test? some vets will work with you on the price for it.

 

[Shaded Night Rabbitry]

I know that he doesn't carry himi. I'll breed him to a rew in the near future to confirm so, but there's a VERY slim chance that it's carried from that far back in the lines. The buck's breeder (who I still call my 'mentor') just doesn't use himis, or anything from himis. Unless they're in the past of her rews, but even then, this buck is before she really picked up rews. That's actually only just recently, and I believe I have one of her starters, since he's a bit older, and he's not from her. (Tanglewoods?)

Now that I'm thinking back, I'm really starting to think that she did get serviced by both bucks. not just the himi. In the long run, I'll just write the himi down as the sire. I'm just quite confused as to how I got things this messed up without realizing it.

And unfortunately, I don't have the money for a DNA test. I struggle enough to even come up with gas money, board, and entry fees for shows. XD I can't drop 100+ just to make sure of a pedigree. Plus I no longer have the buck. Which sorta makes this a good thing, since the only other litter I got from him... Well, that pesky spotting attacked, to say the least. The two out of that litter, have little white splotches on their chests, feet, and chins. XD

 

[Sabine]

I am not much help with the genetics but I'd love to see some pictures

 

[Shaded Night Rabbitry]

XD Let me finish doing the dishes and cleaning the kitchen, and I'll try to get some photos.

 

[RabbitLover94]

Wait, everyone's looking to the bucks right now, but why not the doe? Is her sire or dam a REW? She very well could be carrying a c[suP]h [/suP]if neither parent is a REW. So then, if she passed on her c[suP]h[/suP] and the buck(not the himi) had a c, some babies could be Himi's.

 

[Shaded Night Rabbitry]

XD

The mother has himi behind her, however her sire a rew and the dam a siamese sable, so there's no way for her to carry himi.

 

[RabbitLover94]

Ahh! Now I get it! Ok, then...I guess she must have been bred to the Himi buck. =D